This is sad. D:... What about just showing an ultrascan or saying how your baby is doing or announcing that you just had your baby? What harm is there in that?
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All in the VBGA please.
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My guess is that even though you would assumingly be old enough, younger users may be very confused in different ways.
Well, I'd loved to have seen it become a baby association, so everyone could have their own thread for baby updates instead of them all being lumped in to one thread. I am also not keen on joining VBGA, so also I know it's my loss, but I was enjoying keeping up with everyone's baby news. :-/ Would there ever be a possibility of it becoming an association or is this the final word?
This, I wonder as well. Might be worth while to be pregnancy/postpartum/parenting/kids association, as I as well have had problems with just the one lumped thread.
Im sure it would get confusing/annoying to have a ton of different topics going on in one thread. What if someone has a question, and it just gets skipped over?
And as Im sure it has been made obvious many times by many users, not everyone wants to be in VBGA.
I don't believe the issue is the amount of threads dealing with pregnancy. But the fact that pregnancy is an issue that can get very out of hand with underage users. Thus, the request that all pregnancy discussion happen within the VBG, as the VBG is, by definition, more "grown up".
Will the pregnancy association you wish you have be limited to 16+ members? If not, then it's no different than having it in Friends. And the amount isn't the issue. It's the maturity of the issue that is.
Edit: I'm sorry that people don't wish to join the VBGA. I truely am. But pregnancy is an issue that requires a certain amount of maturity to discuss, and to go through. And a place for more "mature" members is the VBG. If you do not wish to join for reasons of your own... well.. those are your personal reasons. Your personal reasons have nothing to do with the discission of pregnancy and where it should take place. It's an issue you have with the VBG itself. And thus not valid to the pregnancy rule.
Again, I'm sorry if you don't want to join the VBG. But that has nothing to do with whether or not where topics discussing pregnancy should be allowed. It's just your, personal, issue.
As there is no need for another 16+ Association, there is no need to have an association dedicated to pregnancy and the like that comes with it. If it was a topic that was to be discussed by EVERYone on this site, we would not have felt the need to put this current rule into affect. If you have a problem with the VBGA and do not wish to join, that is your prerogative but keep in mind you will not be permitted to discuss this topic elsewhere on PI.
Thanks for the answer. I think I might not have correctly expressed myself, as I don't have any issues with the decisions that have been made nor the VBGA. Some disappointment, yes, but not a problem. I totally understand that a rule needed to be made and I understand that there was a question about the maturity of those discussing the issue of pregnancy. Really, to me, if I were having a baby, I would want to be able to have my own special thread for my little one, instead of being grouped in with everyone else. And I would find it hard if say, I was specifically interested in TK's baby, to wade through all posts in one thread to find her updates only. But it's all unimportant if there is no chance of an association. That's all I was curious about. If it's case closed, then it is. I have no problems with it. Thanks again for answering and please don't think I am harboring some kind of resentment toward the VBGA or the decision to put everything in one thread (or toward anyone involved in said decision). I just thought a baby/parenting association was a neat suggestion or possible alternative. I'm sure you guys thought of that before you decided to move it to VBGA.
Edit: I guess I was thinking of it more from the point of view of the recently invented Pet Association. That was a great idea and since there are many different areas of pet ownership to discuss, it is great to let everyone have their own threads. I just thought the same was true of pregnancy/babies/kids/parenting, which is where I got the idea. Again, I understand now about there being no need for another 16+ association. That was just where I was coming from when I originally asked the question.
Not everyone that is mature is 16 or over though. And I dont see why the Pregnancy association would need to be a 16+ Association. If you dont like it dont look at it, and if there were mean comments about someone's pregnancy that user could just be removed from the association.
The rules of the VBGA forum are completing up to the owner, and if the owner states that all talk must be in that one thread, then really thats the way it must be.
Also - owning a pet is MUCH MUCH different than having a baby, lol, but I don't think you need me to go in to why
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I'm sorry you feel this way but the situation & decision is case closed (using words that amykairi used in the post above your own).
Arguing for the sake of this discussion is not going to change the decision as it was made by the MOD team and VeeZ herself.
Dark Wolf -
It's not the comments made that are immature. It's not that people in the Friends forum are mean or cruel. It's that the issue itself... the issue of pregnancy itself is one that really should be discussed amongst those that are more mature. Yes, I agree. There are some "adults" that are incredibly immature. But the vast majority of people 16+ are more mature and can handle all the issues of pregnancy than the vast majority those who are under 16. I'm not saying all people over 16 are massively mature. I'm not saying all people under 16 are massively mature.
But there are aspects of pregnancy that should be discussed with those old enough, and mature enough, to understand them. If the Pregnancy Association were open to everyone, then anyone could read and comment it. And it would be just the same as being in the Friends forum. It is absolutely NOT an issue of there being so many threads about pregnancy, like there was with all the pet threads. It is because the issue of pregnancy itself is one for more mature individuals to discuss.
I'm sure the MODs thought very hard about this decision and it wasn't just to be mean or to spite people. I'm sure they thought about all possible things that could happen. And this is what they've decided. I'm sorry it doesn't meet your approval, but the fact is that pregnancy discussion is something best suited to those who understand every facet (as can be understood.. no one is ever 100% ready for a baby :-p) of the situation and what's going to happen.
As the decision on this matter is final, I am going to lock this thread to prevent any unnecessary arguing.
We, as MODs, understand that not everyone is going to enjoy this outcome, however as stated several times it is a decision that was reached after weeks of discussion, and after all sides were weighed out.
All threads concerning Pregnancy, Baby Updates, Baby Announcements, and all things baby/pregnant (human wise) needs to be discussed in the appropriate thread inside the VBGA forum.